BUCK: How dangerous, how transmissible is Omicron? Well, there’s some people out there with platforms and followings and that people listen to for whatever reason who don’t seem to want to wait to find out who are already taking this as a moment of panic to be exploited. Clay just pointed out to me in the break that Canada is now instituting vaccine passports for travel on planes and trains, right?
BUCK: That’s where this is.
CLAY: You’re down to automobiles if you’re not vaccinated.
BUCK: Or electric scooters. I’m just saying. They’re not checking the vax passport on the electric scooter — if you still have it, because it hasn’t been stolen from you. But back to where we are here with the conversation around Omicron. CNBC host Jim Cramer, who… (laughing) Look, everyone I know who understands finance always says, “If you listen to these guys, you don’t understand finance.”
But, anyway, right? If you take their advice seriously all the time. But here he is going way outside his mandate to say stocks, “Buy, sell, buy, sell,” to say the federal government — you know what? I’m actually not gonna do it justice by trying to ask you what Jim Cramer of CNBC wants to have when it comes to vaccines let’s hear Cramer say it.
CRAMER: How do we finally put an end to this pandemic? Simple! The federal government needs to require vaccines, including booster shots, for everyone in America, by say, January 1st. This charade must end.” We have immunocompromised people who are incubators for every variant to come walking around lawfully unvaccinated? That’s psychotic. So, it’s time to admit that we have to go war against covid. Require vaccination universally. Have the military run it. If you don’t want to get vaccinated, you better be ready to prove your conscientious objector status in court.
BUCK: Clay, as much as we’re sitting here aghast at this notion, a couple things strike me. One is that, as you know — and we discussed this — it wouldn’t even end.
BUCK: If you got 100% of the United States to get vaccinated, you’re not getting 100% of the world to get vaccinated. There would still be variants. There would still be covid. By the way, coronaviruses have animal reservoirs, too, which no one ever talks about.
But people who are actual epidemiologists will point that out and say, “Hey…” Another thing. Australia is actually kind of doing what Jim Cramer is saying, right? I mean, at some level, right? They’re actually enforcing quarantine camps! They track people down who leave the state-run quarantine camps in Australia like criminals, Clay.
CLAY: I think the key here is I don’t know whether… First of all, it’s an absolutely ludicrous idea. He also said that if you don’t get vaccinated, you have to be basically home confined. And he was reading this, it appears — if you watch the video, Buck — off of a prompter. It’s not like he was just coming up with it on the fly, which would still be dumb but at least it’s live television.
Maybe he just got on a tangent, and he wasn’t anticipating where he was gonna end up. But this is the thing that is so frustrating — and I know you and I have preached it to this audience. The idea of a hundred percent vaccination doesn’t change anything. Look, LeBron James is double vaccinated; he just tested positive for covid.
The head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, Mike McCarthy, is double vaccinated; he just tested positive for covid. These are prominent people. The reason why I mention athletes is because they’re being tested and because they’re obviously more likely to have stories written about them and everything else.
We know by looking at states like Vermont and by looking at states like New Hampshire — which are setting close to records of hospitalization, despite massive vaccination rates — we can’t vaccinate ourselves out of this covid pandemic. It’s not going to happen. And so all these people making arguments like Jim Cramer are throwing away their liberty, and they’re giving it up without even receiving any security in exchange for it.
BUCK: And, as I’ve said, folks, they’re not done. You see this already with what’s going on in Canada now with the transportation vaccination mandate. You’re already hearing people say, why have all these rules? Why have all these different things that go into effect here in preparation for Omicron if you’re not gonna make people who get on planes have vaccination cards, right? Improve them for restaurants in New York City but not planes? They’re not done, Clay.
CLAY: And it started in L.A. as well, Buck. So I don’t know about if we mentioned this on the show earlier this week but now in order to go to a bar, restaurant, movie theater, gym in L.A., you have to have your vaccine card.